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	<title>Comments on: Which costs more, a Mac or a PC?</title>
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		<title>By: Microsoft spreading FUD with their new ad campaign.&#160;&#124;&#160;Macgasm</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-32054</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft spreading FUD with their new ad campaign.&#160;&#124;&#160;Macgasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this point about price has been beaten to death.  I even wrote about the misconception of how PCs are cheaper than Macs some months back. When you come down to it, Macs are less expensive in the long run.Microsoft’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this point about price has been beaten to death.  I even wrote about the misconception of how PCs are cheaper than Macs some months back. When you come down to it, Macs are less expensive in the long run.Microsoft’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mac in azienda costa meno di Windows? &#171; Paoblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac in azienda costa meno di Windows? &#171; Paoblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Una recente ricerca di mercato annuncia quello che tanti fan del Mac segretamente attendevano di vedere confermato: in termini di TCO, ossia Total Cost of Ownership, uno dei parametri sacri per i reparti contabilità aziendali e gli analisti finanziari, usare nelle aziende i computer di Apple costa complessivamente meno che usare quelli con Windows. Notizia clamorosa che fa il giro del mondo, segnalata per esempio da Ars Technica, ZDNet, MacDailyNews, MuyMac e da ICT Kommunikation e anche da siti dai nomi imbarazzanti come Macgasm. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Una recente ricerca di mercato annuncia quello che tanti fan del Mac segretamente attendevano di vedere confermato: in termini di TCO, ossia Total Cost of Ownership, uno dei parametri sacri per i reparti contabilità aziendali e gli analisti finanziari, usare nelle aziende i computer di Apple costa complessivamente meno che usare quelli con Windows. Notizia clamorosa che fa il giro del mondo, segnalata per esempio da Ars Technica, ZDNet, MacDailyNews, MuyMac e da ICT Kommunikation e anche da siti dai nomi imbarazzanti come Macgasm. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15771</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s this for a fact?  http://infoworld.com/d/mac/mac-it-pros-say-macs-cost-less-manage-pcs-053</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s this for a fact?  <a href="http://infoworld.com/d/mac/mac-it-pros-say-macs-cost-less-manage-pcs-053" rel="nofollow">http://infoworld.com/d/mac/mac-it-pros-say-macs-cost-less-manage-pcs-053</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15657</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost as good as a coward hiding behind a fake name?</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15656</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was nothing complimentary about you in my post.

All kidding aside: you - and the people who write for this site - really need to learn the difference between presenting a factual statement and presenting an opinion. 

That &quot;9 times out of 10&quot; sentence you wrote? You just pulled that number out of your butt. It does nothing to help your credibility. It just makes you look dumb.

Good luck. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was nothing complimentary about you in my post.</p>
<p>All kidding aside: you &#8211; and the people who write for this site &#8211; really need to learn the difference between presenting a factual statement and presenting an opinion. </p>
<p>That &#8220;9 times out of 10&#8243; sentence you wrote? You just pulled that number out of your butt. It does nothing to help your credibility. It just makes you look dumb.</p>
<p>Good luck. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Aquinas</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15652</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Aquinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?  Or more like &quot;Hmmm..&quot; 

I&#039;m a Mac zealot like everyone else here, but reaching that conclusion &quot;When you really get down to it, Macs end up costing less in the long run&quot; based just on 2 factors is anecdotal at best.  

What about warranties?
The Dell probably came with at least a 1 year warranty, right?
Most PC&#039;s come with some sorta warranty that&#039;ll cover the PC.  It starts by covering almost nothing but for $250+ more you can get the piece of mind that it&#039;ll cover everything. NOT like Apple&#039;s CRAPPY AppleCare, which won&#039;t cover spills or drops!  (I&#039;m a little bitter on this, yes.)
So when you add that you can save the $200 (per trip) you would pay to your local BB Geek.

And I think @Joshua will agree, may non-techie consumers will get the warranty.  Those that don&#039;t probably know a &quot;computer&quot; guy who helps them when they need.

Second why pay full price for anything?! Ebay, Google, et al can save you a lot on those software subscriptions. 

Anywho, just my 2 cents.

Long live Apple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  Or more like &#8220;Hmmm..&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Mac zealot like everyone else here, but reaching that conclusion &#8220;When you really get down to it, Macs end up costing less in the long run&#8221; based just on 2 factors is anecdotal at best.  </p>
<p>What about warranties?<br />
The Dell probably came with at least a 1 year warranty, right?<br />
Most PC&#8217;s come with some sorta warranty that&#8217;ll cover the PC.  It starts by covering almost nothing but for $250+ more you can get the piece of mind that it&#8217;ll cover everything. NOT like Apple&#8217;s CRAPPY AppleCare, which won&#8217;t cover spills or drops!  (I&#8217;m a little bitter on this, yes.)<br />
So when you add that you can save the $200 (per trip) you would pay to your local BB Geek.</p>
<p>And I think @Joshua will agree, may non-techie consumers will get the warranty.  Those that don&#8217;t probably know a &#8220;computer&#8221; guy who helps them when they need.</p>
<p>Second why pay full price for anything?! Ebay, Google, et al can save you a lot on those software subscriptions. </p>
<p>Anywho, just my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Long live Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the compliment on the rhetorical device.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15649</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, to summarize your rebuttal: 

It *might* be cheaper for ignorant people to buy a Mac.

&quot;Turn the reality distortion field off and take a look out the window.&quot;

Oh, that&#039;s just beautiful. That sentence is the supernova of irony.

&quot;Thanks for playing.&quot;

Yeah, here&#039;s a game: re-read your post and look at all the statements you present as factual. Then ask yourself, How many of these statements can I back up with, you know, actual evidence?

Have fun. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, to summarize your rebuttal: </p>
<p>It *might* be cheaper for ignorant people to buy a Mac.</p>
<p>&#8220;Turn the reality distortion field off and take a look out the window.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s just beautiful. That sentence is the supernova of irony.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks for playing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, here&#8217;s a game: re-read your post and look at all the statements you present as factual. Then ask yourself, How many of these statements can I back up with, you know, actual evidence?</p>
<p>Have fun. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15641</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets summarize again.  

When Dell doesn&#039;t offer discounts, and
When you can’t be bothered to search for anti-virus rebates, and
When you get a virus, and
When you have to pay someone to remove the virus, and
When you never, ever have a problem with a Mac

…Then it *Will* be cheaper to own a Mac.


Lets call a spade a spade.  Savvy technology users will always be able to avoid the things you mention - 9 times out 10.  But put frankly, the world isn&#039;t technologically savvy. Pretending they are is a disservice to them.  Stop pretending geeks are the key demographic when it comes to technology, because they aren&#039;t.

Turn the reality distortion field off and take a look out the window. Those people out there don&#039;t give a crap about Norton or McAfee, heck, most of them probably couldn&#039;t even tell you what those companies do, or how those companies could help.

So yes, in the long run, it will be cheaper for those people to own a Mac.  They just want to turn on a machine and have it do what it should do--work.

Thanks for playing.

PS. I love the youtube video that starts off, &quot;Developers! Developers! Developers!&quot;  Can we get more of those?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets summarize again.  </p>
<p>When Dell doesn&#8217;t offer discounts, and<br />
When you can’t be bothered to search for anti-virus rebates, and<br />
When you get a virus, and<br />
When you have to pay someone to remove the virus, and<br />
When you never, ever have a problem with a Mac</p>
<p>…Then it *Will* be cheaper to own a Mac.</p>
<p>Lets call a spade a spade.  Savvy technology users will always be able to avoid the things you mention &#8211; 9 times out 10.  But put frankly, the world isn&#8217;t technologically savvy. Pretending they are is a disservice to them.  Stop pretending geeks are the key demographic when it comes to technology, because they aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Turn the reality distortion field off and take a look out the window. Those people out there don&#8217;t give a crap about Norton or McAfee, heck, most of them probably couldn&#8217;t even tell you what those companies do, or how those companies could help.</p>
<p>So yes, in the long run, it will be cheaper for those people to own a Mac.  They just want to turn on a machine and have it do what it should do&#8211;work.</p>
<p>Thanks for playing.</p>
<p>PS. I love the youtube video that starts off, &#8220;Developers! Developers! Developers!&#8221;  Can we get more of those?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15640</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the tortured logic.

&quot;you’re probably going to pay annually about $60.00 to $70.00 to protect your Windows computer from being attacked.&quot;

Except you can easily find rebates for anti-virus software which will result in a net cost of $0. Both Norton and McAfee do this every year.

So let&#039;s summarize:

If Dell didn&#039;t constantly offer discounts, and
If you couldn&#039;t be bothered to search for anti-virus rebates, and
If you got a virus, and
If you had to pay someone to remove the virus, and
If you never, ever have a problem with a Mac

...Then it *might* be cheaper to own a Mac.

Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the tortured logic.</p>
<p>&#8220;you’re probably going to pay annually about $60.00 to $70.00 to protect your Windows computer from being attacked.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except you can easily find rebates for anti-virus software which will result in a net cost of $0. Both Norton and McAfee do this every year.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s summarize:</p>
<p>If Dell didn&#8217;t constantly offer discounts, and<br />
If you couldn&#8217;t be bothered to search for anti-virus rebates, and<br />
If you got a virus, and<br />
If you had to pay someone to remove the virus, and<br />
If you never, ever have a problem with a Mac</p>
<p>&#8230;Then it *might* be cheaper to own a Mac.</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Lagana</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15594</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Lagana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit the nail on the head.  It&#039;s all about how cheap can I get that computer for.  Dell will definitely sell for less than Sony.  I guess they feel that the can make their money up in volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit the nail on the head.  It&#8217;s all about how cheap can I get that computer for.  Dell will definitely sell for less than Sony.  I guess they feel that the can make their money up in volume.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Lagana</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15593</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Lagana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m doing the same thing.  I just hope when the store opens it won&#039;t go down from the influx of traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing the same thing.  I just hope when the store opens it won&#8217;t go down from the influx of traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt L Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15590</link>
		<dc:creator>Khürt L Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way about Sony but corporate America is too much in the bag of Dell, HP and Lenovo.  Won&#039;t see any large enterprises issuing Sony VIAO to their sales force anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way about Sony but corporate America is too much in the bag of Dell, HP and Lenovo.  Won&#8217;t see any large enterprises issuing Sony VIAO to their sales force anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt L Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15589</link>
		<dc:creator>Khürt L Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what blogs are for. :)

The Apple Store is down and I am sitting here hitting refresh so that I can pre-order an iPad to complement my MacBook and iMac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what blogs are for. :)</p>
<p>The Apple Store is down and I am sitting here hitting refresh so that I can pre-order an iPad to complement my MacBook and iMac.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Lagana</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15576</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Lagana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khürt, thank you for making my point yet again on the cost difference.  I chose to use a Dell in my article since Dell&#039;s seem be sold for less than the likes of HP and Sony.  I wanted to show that even a Dell can cost more than a Mac.  I tend to say that Sony computers are the Macs of the Windows computers.  They have great looking computers like Macs.  Sony&#039;s All-In-One&#039;s look really nice, and they tend to be priced similarly to Macs.  However, sometimes they cost more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khürt, thank you for making my point yet again on the cost difference.  I chose to use a Dell in my article since Dell&#8217;s seem be sold for less than the likes of HP and Sony.  I wanted to show that even a Dell can cost more than a Mac.  I tend to say that Sony computers are the Macs of the Windows computers.  They have great looking computers like Macs.  Sony&#8217;s All-In-One&#8217;s look really nice, and they tend to be priced similarly to Macs.  However, sometimes they cost more.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for doing that leg work.  I was just waiting for someone to driveby comment and let us just how over-priced MBPs are... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for doing that leg work.  I was just waiting for someone to driveby comment and let us just how over-priced MBPs are&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2010/03/11/which-costs-more-a-mac-or-a-pc/#comment-15549</link>
		<dc:creator>Khürt Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The standard laptop that my employer issues is an HP EliteBook 6930p which cost over $1700.  It has a 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3GB of RAM, a 14&quot; widescreen and 160GB HD.  How does that compare to a MacBook Pro?

A MacBook Pro with a 2.54GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM, a 15&quot; widescreen and 250GB HD is $1499.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standard laptop that my employer issues is an HP EliteBook 6930p which cost over $1700.  It has a 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3GB of RAM, a 14&#8243; widescreen and 160GB HD.  How does that compare to a MacBook Pro?</p>
<p>A MacBook Pro with a 2.54GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM, a 15&#8243; widescreen and 250GB HD is $1499.</p>
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