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	<title>Comments on: If a developer lowers the price of an app are we entitled to a partial refund?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a 7-day cutoff, then the guy who bought the thing 8 days before feels bad.  

If you have a 3-day cutoff, then the guy who bought the thing 3 days before feels bad.

If you have a midnight cutoff, the guy who bought the thing at 11:00 feels bad.

(I sympathize with that guy: I lost the wild card in my fantasy baseball league, after 162 games of hard work, because I submitted a final free agent draft at 11:03 and the draft closed at 11:00. I thought it closed at midnight.)

There&#039;s no ethical question involved, unless you think it&#039;s unethical to negotiate a price and settle on something more favorable to you than your &quot;final offer&quot; price. Are you saying that every Priceline transaction is unethical?
 If that&#039;s the way you feel, OK: I hear you. Let me know where to join you on the barricades.  Otherwise, we have a happy buyer and a happy seller.  


In any case, I don&#039;t know many developers (not hobbyists) to whom sales are really important.  We do a lot of sales at Eastgate, but we could live without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a 7-day cutoff, then the guy who bought the thing 8 days before feels bad.  </p>
<p>If you have a 3-day cutoff, then the guy who bought the thing 3 days before feels bad.</p>
<p>If you have a midnight cutoff, the guy who bought the thing at 11:00 feels bad.</p>
<p>(I sympathize with that guy: I lost the wild card in my fantasy baseball league, after 162 games of hard work, because I submitted a final free agent draft at 11:03 and the draft closed at 11:00. I thought it closed at midnight.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no ethical question involved, unless you think it&#8217;s unethical to negotiate a price and settle on something more favorable to you than your &#8220;final offer&#8221; price. Are you saying that every Priceline transaction is unethical?<br />
 If that&#8217;s the way you feel, OK: I hear you. Let me know where to join you on the barricades.  Otherwise, we have a happy buyer and a happy seller.  </p>
<p>In any case, I don&#8217;t know many developers (not hobbyists) to whom sales are really important.  We do a lot of sales at Eastgate, but we could live without them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2009/12/24/if-a-developer-lowers-the-price-of-an-app-are-we-entitled-to-a-partial-refund/#comment-11480</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I charged you 100.00 for a month of advertisements starting on Jan.1, and then on Jan. 2 changed the rate to 50.00 per month, I would refund you half.  That would be the ethical thing to do.

I&#039;m not advocating a complete discount for everyone who has ever purchased an app.  Maybe it came off that way, if so, I should clarify.

I think there needs to be a certain cut off day.  If prices change with in a week, then the consumer who purchased the app during that buffer zone is entitled to a partial refund.

I&#039;m not sure what US Law stipulates for sales prices, but up here consumers are entitled to sales prices, and partial refunds, so long as the purchase was made a short period before the item went on sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I charged you 100.00 for a month of advertisements starting on Jan.1, and then on Jan. 2 changed the rate to 50.00 per month, I would refund you half.  That would be the ethical thing to do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not advocating a complete discount for everyone who has ever purchased an app.  Maybe it came off that way, if so, I should clarify.</p>
<p>I think there needs to be a certain cut off day.  If prices change with in a week, then the consumer who purchased the app during that buffer zone is entitled to a partial refund.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what US Law stipulates for sales prices, but up here consumers are entitled to sales prices, and partial refunds, so long as the purchase was made a short period before the item went on sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2009/12/24/if-a-developer-lowers-the-price-of-an-app-are-we-entitled-to-a-partial-refund/#comment-11479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The natural response of developers and publishers, of course, is simply not to have special offers, or to cloak them in thickets of coupons and &quot;invitations&quot; for plausible deniability.

A willing buyer, a willing seller: a fair bargain. 

(PS: will you give me a refund if you lower your ad rates for someone else next year?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The natural response of developers and publishers, of course, is simply not to have special offers, or to cloak them in thickets of coupons and &#8220;invitations&#8221; for plausible deniability.</p>
<p>A willing buyer, a willing seller: a fair bargain. </p>
<p>(PS: will you give me a refund if you lower your ad rates for someone else next year?)</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Schnell</title>
		<link>http://www.macgasm.net/2009/12/24/if-a-developer-lowers-the-price-of-an-app-are-we-entitled-to-a-partial-refund/#comment-11472</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Schnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that a great idea.  As you can see by my post, I&#039;m not a big fan of apps suddenly going free.  I think it&#039;s a bit of a slap in the face to those people who have paid for the app.  There needs to be some sort of compensation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that a great idea.  As you can see by my post, I&#8217;m not a big fan of apps suddenly going free.  I think it&#8217;s a bit of a slap in the face to those people who have paid for the app.  There needs to be some sort of compensation.</p>
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		<title>By: imajoj</title>
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		<dc:creator>imajoj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another example of this is the recently free dogfighting game &quot;F.A.S.T.&quot; by SGN. They made the game free but made the features for the original paid version a $0.99 upgrade. According to the support page they made the base upgrade free for the users who have bought the app before it went free. If only TTR3 went a similar path, even just a free song pack for the people who paid for it would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another example of this is the recently free dogfighting game &#8220;F.A.S.T.&#8221; by SGN. They made the game free but made the features for the original paid version a $0.99 upgrade. According to the support page they made the base upgrade free for the users who have bought the app before it went free. If only TTR3 went a similar path, even just a free song pack for the people who paid for it would be nice.</p>
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