Comments on: The iPhone 3G S cryfest has begun! Get over it. http://www.macgasm.net/2009/06/09/iphone-3g-cryfest-begun/ Apple Tips, Apple News, Apple Everything. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joshua Schnell http://www.macgasm.net/2009/06/09/iphone-3g-cryfest-begun/#comment-2483 Joshua Schnell Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:07:16 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=4453#comment-2483 That's profoundly untrue. I have no problem with people complaining-hell I do it myself A LOT. My beef is 100% with people who have a sense of entitlement. No one has the right to a new product. That’s profoundly untrue. I have no problem with people complaining-hell I do it myself A LOT. My beef is 100% with people who have a sense of entitlement. No one has the right to a new product.

]]> By: Arnold Jamtart http://www.macgasm.net/2009/06/09/iphone-3g-cryfest-begun/#comment-2134 Arnold Jamtart Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:36:45 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=4453#comment-2134 Let's talk about what this is really about: the issue isn't whether binding contracts are bad (some are, lots aren't) or whether people should abide by the agreements they enter into (generally, they should), or whether people understood the terms of the contract they signed when they acquired their iPhone (I'd wager that most did), it's that you don't want to listen to people whine. I empathize, but you're but one voice... err... complaining into the maelstrom of millions of years of social evolution. If you don't want to hear other people complain, you should find yourself a log cabin somewhere in the wilderness. At a minimum, you should certainly stay off of echo chambers like Twitter. I guarantee you those kids won't stay off your virtual lawn. To the issue: Presumably, when people signed a three-year contract, they knew what they were in for (I certainly did), weren't all that happy about it, but decided to lump it because the options were a) get a high-end mobile with an unfavourable contract or b) not get a high-end mobile at all (as you rightly pointed out). Neither option is ideal, but I decided I'd rather have the phone on their terms than not at all. Having signed that contract (actually, mine was verbal, but having *effectively* signed it), I've never entertained the idea of not abiding by the terms. Truth be told, I'm not even sure how I would go about breaking the terms of that contract -- I honestly haven't given it any thought. I've signed it; I'll live with it. But there's nothing to say that people can't voice objections to this (or any other) agreement while continuing to abide by it. That's their right as consumers. The current system is clearly unpopular, but as it's the only game in town, people will continue to sign contracts they don't particularly like while complaining loudly. While all the whining is admittedly grating, there's a clearly a high demand for a different way of doing business, and sooner or later, some enterprising companies are going to try to take advantage of that demand. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, etc. Me, I'll stick with my 3G. Not because I can't get a new phone until March 2011, but because the 3GS doesn't offer enough for me to justify buying a new phone. Besides, by the time my contract is up, mobile phones will be integrated into our personal jetpacks anyway... Let's talk about what this is really about: the issue isn't whether binding contracts are bad (some are, lots aren't) or whether people should abide by the agreements they enter into (generally, they should), or whether people understood the terms of the contract they signed when they acquired their iPhone (I'd wager that most did), it's that you don't want to listen to people whine. I empathize, but you're but one voice… err… complaining into the maelstrom of millions of years of social evolution. If you don't want to hear other people complain, you should find yourself a log cabin somewhere in the wilderness. At a minimum, you should certainly stay off of echo chambers like Twitter. I guarantee you those kids won't stay off your virtual lawn.

To the issue:
Presumably, when people signed a three-year contract, they knew what they were in for (I certainly did), weren't all that happy about it, but decided to lump it because the options were a) get a high-end mobile with an unfavourable contract or b) not get a high-end mobile at all (as you rightly pointed out). Neither option is ideal, but I decided I'd rather have the phone on their terms than not at all. Having signed that contract (actually, mine was verbal, but having *effectively* signed it), I've never entertained the idea of not abiding by the terms. Truth be told, I'm not even sure how I would go about breaking the terms of that contract — I honestly haven't given it any thought. I've signed it; I'll live with it. But there's nothing to say that people can't voice objections to this (or any other) agreement while continuing to abide by it. That's their right as consumers. The current system is clearly unpopular, but as it's the only game in town, people will continue to sign contracts they don't particularly like while complaining loudly. While all the whining is admittedly grating, there's a clearly a high demand for a different way of doing business, and sooner or later, some enterprising companies are going to try to take advantage of that demand. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, etc.

Me, I'll stick with my 3G. Not because I can't get a new phone until March 2011, but because the 3GS doesn't offer enough for me to justify buying a new phone. Besides, by the time my contract is up, mobile phones will be integrated into our personal jetpacks anyway…

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