Comments on: Whither my apps? http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=apps Mac Tips, Mac News, Mac Everything. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:56:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Macgasm Podcast #120 | Macgasm http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1975 Macgasm Podcast #120 | Macgasm Sat, 30 May 2009 03:00:49 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1975 [...] this episode, Josh asks “Is Apple doing enough for new users?” If you like it, Share [...] [...] this episode, Josh asks “Is Apple doing enough for new users?” If you like it, Share [...]

]]> By: macgasm http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1952 macgasm Thu, 21 May 2009 04:00:04 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1952 Given the financial success a lot of these developers are seeing in the AppStore, despite giving away 30% off the top, I think you'd see a lot more people consider the possibility these days. If anything the developers would be more concerned about the approval process and the terms of use. Given the financial success a lot of these developers are seeing in the AppStore, despite giving away 30% off the top, I think you'd see a lot more people consider the possibility these days. If anything the developers would be more concerned about the approval process and the terms of use.

]]> By: macgasm http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1951 macgasm Thu, 21 May 2009 03:56:47 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1951 I love the "we're so happy we've got something decent that we don't ask for more argument". I wonder if it's causing us to stagnate a little though. Stifling innovation is a bad thing. Is it the users like us, or the developers that give us the tools, that are causing the stagnation? I'm more inclined to believe it's the users. We all track down crappy, half developed "beta" software, and we've become content using broken crap. I say we demand more from developers on a whole. I love the “we're so happy we've got something decent that we don't ask for more argument”. I wonder if it's causing us to stagnate a little though. Stifling innovation is a bad thing. Is it the users like us, or the developers that give us the tools, that are causing the stagnation? I'm more inclined to believe it's the users. We all track down crappy, half developed “beta” software, and we've become content using broken crap. I say we demand more from developers on a whole.

]]> By: nabsy http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1950 nabsy Thu, 21 May 2009 01:45:19 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1950 Thanks for the comment! I agree with you there is inherent benefit to the developer in having the product streamed to user in such a way that it saves them time on delivery and marketing. This is where most great ideas fail unfortunately. Doesn't Apple already have a large app listing and description database on their website? Couldn't they use my search data (from safari or firefox) to suggest apps just like Google would on their search page?<br><br>You're probably right that the initial Apple response would be to charge. But if I was in there camp, I would start looking at this as a retention issue and just offer it for free. Of course everyone is jumping on the Mac bandwagon these days so maybe there is no retention issue... Thanks for the comment! I agree with you there is inherent benefit to the developer in having the product streamed to user in such a way that it saves them time on delivery and marketing. This is where most great ideas fail unfortunately. Doesn't Apple already have a large app listing and description database on their website? Couldn't they use my search data (from safari or firefox) to suggest apps just like Google would on their search page?

You're probably right that the initial Apple response would be to charge. But if I was in there camp, I would start looking at this as a retention issue and just offer it for free. Of course everyone is jumping on the Mac bandwagon these days so maybe there is no retention issue…

]]> By: 4fthawaiian http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1949 4fthawaiian Thu, 21 May 2009 00:32:14 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1949 Would they then charge the stiff fees they charge now to become an iPhone developer? Or, enforce the same ludicrous standards re: "decency", etc? I don't know if the App Store is really my favorite model.<br><br>Maybe Nabil just needs a good feed-reader to stay in touch with this stuff? I don't keep up either, admittedly, but it doesn't seem to bug me. I spend most of my time working with the same three tools (browser, email, text editor) so I suppose I'm not that into checking out new apps. I have to say, though, this sentence: "What’s to stop me from actually purchasing a Netbook instead of a new Macbook the next time I need to make a change?" . Really resonated for me. I was *this* close to getting a Netbook to go with my iPhone 3G, but in the end was only prevented from doing so by the awful thought of having to use Windows (I wound up getting a new MacBook, which I LOVE). So, what am I saying? Well, I suppose for me OSX is enough. I can get my work done (mostly!) and I don't have the issues that Windows users have (constant viruses, spyware, ugly-ass OS). Maybe that's why Apple isn't working harder to give us access to new software: We're all just so happy to have a machine that works that we don't demand much more. Would they then charge the stiff fees they charge now to become an iPhone developer? Or, enforce the same ludicrous standards re: “decency”, etc? I don't know if the App Store is really my favorite model.

Maybe Nabil just needs a good feed-reader to stay in touch with this stuff? I don't keep up either, admittedly, but it doesn't seem to bug me. I spend most of my time working with the same three tools (browser, email, text editor) so I suppose I'm not that into checking out new apps. I have to say, though, this sentence: “What’s to stop me from actually purchasing a Netbook instead of a new Macbook the next time I need to make a change?” . Really resonated for me. I was *this* close to getting a Netbook to go with my iPhone 3G, but in the end was only prevented from doing so by the awful thought of having to use Windows (I wound up getting a new MacBook, which I LOVE). So, what am I saying? Well, I suppose for me OSX is enough. I can get my work done (mostly!) and I don't have the issues that Windows users have (constant viruses, spyware, ugly-ass OS). Maybe that's why Apple isn't working harder to give us access to new software: We're all just so happy to have a machine that works that we don't demand much more.

]]> By: macgasm http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1948 macgasm Wed, 20 May 2009 21:59:41 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1948 An "open" universal App store for the desktop would change everything. Once place to get updates, and one place to download from would make the whole updating process such a breeze. Man, if only it was a reality! An “open” universal App store for the desktop would change everything. Once place to get updates, and one place to download from would make the whole updating process such a breeze. Man, if only it was a reality!

]]> By: laggy http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1947 laggy Wed, 20 May 2009 21:48:30 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1947 totally agree totally agree

]]> By: GlutenBoy http://www.macgasm.net/2009/05/20/apps/comment-page-1/#comment-1946 GlutenBoy Wed, 20 May 2009 17:49:13 +0000 http://www.macgasm.net/?p=3865#comment-1946 Apple is having so much success with their App Store for the iPhone, it would be ridiculous if they don't have a similar plan for OS X apps. That being said the environment is quite different: they have a closed environment with the iPhone, so they can charge a premium for someone to publish their app on the App Store. They don't have this leverage on the OS X app world, but I could see the benefit for developper to have their app diffused ala iPhone App Store. Unless Apple is ready to offer this service for free for developper, just to promote their platform, I don't see all developper jumping on this train.<br><br>Anyway my point is all the tools are there for Apple to do so, but like you said I think their focus is not there at the moment. Apple is having so much success with their App Store for the iPhone, it would be ridiculous if they don't have a similar plan for OS X apps. That being said the environment is quite different: they have a closed environment with the iPhone, so they can charge a premium for someone to publish their app on the App Store. They don't have this leverage on the OS X app world, but I could see the benefit for developper to have their app diffused ala iPhone App Store. Unless Apple is ready to offer this service for free for developper, just to promote their platform, I don't see all developper jumping on this train.

Anyway my point is all the tools are there for Apple to do so, but like you said I think their focus is not there at the moment.

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